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Topic: Taj Mahal or Tejo Mahalaya  |
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04 Jul 2007 06:08 pm | #32 |
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rocarb
taj mahal or tejo mahalaya .... jayein 1760 main .... abhi ham mood main nahien hain |
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05 Jul 2007 10:57 am | #33 |
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rocrab:
tnx 4 the info. Just goes 2 show some ppl still believe in something V all believe in widout having 2 shout about it 2 others in order 2 convicnce themselves.
Authors 2 this topic are either not aware or hav ignored the "ORDER" of the UP Waqf Board claiming that the Taj Complex is "their property" and should eb handed over 2 the "Board" for management. This was in 2005 with the backing of a Mulayam Singh minister of the same faith. The ASI then decided to challenge this in the Supreme Court - NOT BY QUESTIONING THE TITULAR RIGHT OF THE Waqf BOARD but BY PLEADING THE THE CLAIM WAS TIME BARRED. As far as I know the dispute is still sub-judice. (look up Waqf and Waqf TAJ on the net). Waqf is an acient Arabic-Islamic "Haqueequat" which appears 2 b able to acquire REAL PROPERTY BY ORAL TRANSFER. Whether Mukesh Amabani's lawyers in Mumbai failed 2 find any Waqf claim coz that was time barred I do not know but the Mumbai High Court ruled IN FAVOR OF THE Waqf!!!!!
When Waqf made this clearly frivol,ous and vexatious claim against Taj Complex the UP BJP then countered with the Shiva Temple claim - which was then justified in my belief. The legal position on Taj is interesting. IF there was a Shiv Ling/Yoni where the real coffins are said to be buried then it has to be ruled whether Shiv Ling/Yoni is an ICON or a DEITY. As far as I know the NATRAJ is the only MOORTI and Contd(2)
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05 Jul 2007 03:25 pm | #35 |
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Some more facts about Shahjahan and his Taj Mahal :
The plaque put the archealogy department outside the Tajmahal describes the edifice as a mausoleum built by Shahjahan for his wife Mumtaz Mahal , over 22 years from 1631 to 1653. That plaque is a specimen of historical bungling. Firstly, the plaque sites no authority for its claim. Secondly the lady's name was Mumtaz-ulZamani and not Mumtazmahal. Thirdly, the period of 22 years is taken from some mumbo jumbo noting by an unreliable French visitor Tavernier, to the exclusion of all muslim versions, which is an absurdity. There would have not been any scope for guesswork had the building construction been on record in the court papers.
The designer of the Tajmahal is also variously mentioned as Essa Effendy, a Persian or Turk, or Ahmed Mehendis or a Frenchman, Austin deBordeaux, or Geronimo Veroneo, an Italian, or Shahjahan himself.
Twenty thousand labourers are supposed to have worked for 22 years during Shahjahan's reign in building the Tajmahal. Had this been true, there should have been available in Shahjahan's court papers design drawings, heaps of labour muster rolls, daily expenditure sheets, bills and receipts of material ordered, and commisioning orders. There is not even a scrap of paper of this kind.
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07 Jul 2007 04:45 pm | #41 |
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What we are discussing here and what Mr Oaks wrote was about the distortion of history, how Shahjahan is wrongly credited as a great builder, lover etc etc.
Dont know how the Courts and Wakf Board came into the picture. Whether the property goes to Wakf Board or to ASI is immaterial. The Taj cannot be converted to a temple now, it will be the Taj. Only the building should put in its proper perspective.
The Wakf board is unable to pay salaries and so it needs money, it is interested only in revenues earned from tourists.The ASI is under Govt. Of India and so things will remain the same.
Also it seems a lot of faith is being put in the Courts to settle the irrelevant title dispute. Please look at the Babri Masjid dispute and the time taken by it ( more than 50 yrs with no solution in sight). As regards the English Courts and English Church/buildings, they have no relevance here.
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21 Jul 2007 07:06 pm | #44 |
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one cannot understand Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- This is happening because we have not allowed man's intelligence to flower. And whenever it has happened in any society that intelligence was allowed a little freedom, that society becomes weaker than other societies. It happened in India: India remained a slave for two thousand years for many reasons. One of the reasons was the great revolution that was brought by Krishna, Patanjali, Saraha, Mahavira, Buddha. These people brought such a great revolution, such a radical change in the consciousness of this country that many people were released from the bondage of stupidity; a great intelligence was released. The result was this: that the intelligent people stopped killing, they became non-violent; they refused to be recruited in the army. Buddhists and Jains refused to be recruited in the army, the BRAHMINS refused to be recruited in the army. Now, this was the cream, and the cream refused to fight. Then very stupid countries and very ordinary people -- Hunas, Turks, Moghuls, who were far backward in every possible way -- ran over the country. And because the most intelligent part of the younger generation was no more interested in killing and violence there was no resistance, no fight. They conquered the country. A big country was conquered by very small countries. For two thousand years this country remained in slavery for the simple reason...
- tao , the golden gate vol 2 |
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28 Oct 2009 03:02 pm | #45 |
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