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BrainyBakra said: Yes. I agree.  September 12, '08 |
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neha_sh2000 said: hmmm...thought provoking post.....and has raised an interesting debate......while the developed west is standing to gain from the intelligentsia from india.....mayb v shld do something about it too....atleast so that v can provide a better intfrastructure to those immigrants..... September 10, '08 |
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wits-end said: If effective steps are not taken, it could lead to the possibility of a demand for Brihad (Greater) Bangladesh in the near future. Such has been the scale of immigratn in Manipur that United Committee Manipur (NGO), published a report, 'Influx of Migrants into Manipur: A Threat to the Indigenous Ethnic People' in December 2005, indicating that migrants from Myanmar, Bangladesh and Nepal would, in 30 years' time, "either marginalise or wipe out all the ethnic groups" in the state. Similarly, Bangladeshi migrants in Nagaland now constitute a serious threat to the demographic balance of the state. (much of this info is easily found on the net.) We have seen the effects of slow ethnic cleansing & the havoc it plays on a regions demographic balance in the Chinese govt’s efforts in Tibet & in our own Kashmir where the hindu pundits are now a thing of the past. Pls let us be a lil more aware of the nuances & effects of such serious political courses. whew! guess am done here. September 10, '08 |
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wits-end said: Ok, I guess we share completely diff perspectives for I am selfish & want to ensure the well being of my family before I venture out to do the world any good. Even the great mystic ramkrishna paramhansa said that ‘priojoner biporite bondhu priti oproyojonio’ – sacrificing the good of ur own to serve others is undesirable. Two entirely diff world views. About the 2nd more pertinent issue of illegal immigrant, the prob is not as simple as ‘ask urself if they r terrorists’ coz militancy is not the ONLY concern here. Apart from actively involved in terrorism activities, they trade in arms, fake currency, Drugs and human trafficking. Official intelligence reports frm Guwahati say that every day around 6,000 illegal infiltrators cross the border and enter the state. Our own people are being reduced to minority in home states. Local dwellers in Assam and West Bengal have lost their jobs and their cultural heritage. September 10, '08 |
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rat_race said: wits-end ..yes it does sound elitist. worse it sounds selfish. i am sure u have heard of this phrase from the indian scriptures.. >>vasudhaiva kutumbakam >> the whole world is my family. i dont claim that by allowing less fortunate people from other countries into india we (or I, atleast) can feel magnanimous about it, but i think it is the right thing to do. and if in the process some of my tax contribution is used up, i am okay with that. yes, security issues with bangladeshi immigrants are a valid concern and they have to be dealt with. but let us ask ourselves, why are 2 crore bangaldeshis in India ? not for tourism surely. and how many of them are terrorists or have terrorist links. they are here because they see a livelihood here.and if, as amartya sen said, we can share our poverty with them, i would say, let us do it. September 09, '08 |
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wits-end said: Finally, while this may sound elitist, it is imperative for nations like ours which are crippled by low per capita income & terrible poverty, to restrict the flow of people to those who can assist in nation building or economic uplift. Nations like U.S & Canada would perish if they had to completely do without the illegal mexican & puerto rican immigrants as they fulfil a huge vacuum in the labor force there. Thats not the case here. we have surplus labor & any job a nepali or b'deshi can perform as a cook or security guard can be done by umpteen other indians who are gradually abandoning farming & flocking to cities for livelihood. Today, even the US have understood the security concerns that free border access amounts to & are buildg a mammoth structure across the mexican border, which trust me, has not gone down v.well with the latin american vote base. A certain 'entry barrier' is imp. for free trade to prosper for that alone helps in setting up benchmarks. September 09, '08 |
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wits-end said: The tenor of this piece implies that there lies some great magnanimity in allowing free access to immigrants from neibouring nations who only add to our probs of a cumbersome population, high crime, unemployment, poor distributn of resources, etc. This is irresponsible & only the most vote currying govt resorts to such tactics. A 2003 report pegged the no. of illegal bangladeshi immigrants at 20,000,000. Wikipedia informs that it takes Rs. 180,000 to deport one such immigrant back. U can do the math to see what it costs us poor taxpayers to deport even a tenth of such ppl across the border. The CPIM has created its votebank across the rank & file of such illegal populance frm b'desh. As a child i remb that most of the maids who wrked in our homes wud openly admit to crossing the border at nite to seek a livelihood in kolkta. In today's geopolitical climate where terrorism is the biggest threat to the stability & safety of any economy & its ppl, special attentn needs to be paid here. September 09, '08 |
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A_Touch_Of_Silver said: Liberalisation, free trade etc etc for western countries means gettingng free access to do what they want. They don't believe in reciprocating. May be it is time India also start thinking in that direction, considering the problems created by immigrants from Bangladesh. September 09, '08 |
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chithrajust said: --------indians are definitely better at caring, sharing and migrating!!! good one September 09, '08 |
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sazzyme said: point noted September 09, '08 |
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