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manisha_bhattacharya said: ![]() November 30, '08 |
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King-Bulls-Ring said: "the movement from thinking, feeling, yearning, doing, knowing... in the now (present time) to BEING (singular) in the NOW (timeless) is the "how to" ![]() Fantastico. Simple and to the point... This "how to" can start with very simple things such as drinking a good cup of coffee to complicated things like handling a situation involving death... Thanks for elaborating the subject Ledzep... Loved it... November 18, '08 |
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Ledzep said: KBR, you are attempting to get me to do something i loathe ...heres a saap marey aur lathi na toothe attempt :-) lovers screaming now in the throes of passion, a junkie whos just taken a jab, a fleeing delusional paranoid, a reactive thug whos quick on the draw... all have valid interpretations of being in the now! then there is the BEING in the NOW. ...various selves, physical, mental, spiritual... are congruent and one. thought-feeling, self-other dichotomies have been bridged. just being... in a mindless alertness... in a timelessness... the movement from thinking, feeling, yearning, doing, knowing... in the now (present time) to BEING (singular) in the NOW (timeless) is the "how to" this has been spelt out and continuously scientifically verified at least since the time of the buddha! cheers! November 18, '08 |
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King-Bulls-Ring said: --contd. When we grow up, inhibitions, prejudices overrule simple logical thinking of the mind and we accumulate events without 'disposing it off'. We put proper tag, markers, not to forget 'the event' that hurt us, tape it, video it, write it (in our mind-computer), and whatnot.. use every possible mechanism 'lest we forget' the actual event and the participants and more importantly the 'pain' associated with it. And recalling this event 9even for the sake of finding a solution) at a later period, causes more and more pain, from which it is practically impossible to come out. Ledzep, Would love to hear more from you, so i can learn more on this subject.. Please... November 17, '08 |
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King-Bulls-Ring said: Imagine some very sad event that happened few years ago. When you imagine, you can feel the sadness in your eyes, in your head and even in your body. At that time, be conscious and watch your body. You will 'feel' the pain. This pain is a recollection of the 'stored pain' and multiplies and gets stored back again. So, everytime, you sit back and try to learn from the past, the pain adds up and it is still there. Instead, when any event happens, try to resolve by responding, either by reacting or ignoring, the event gets 'closed out' and is not in your memory anymore. But, the lessons go deep into your mind and action from then onwards. Children are best example for present'. They resolve every thing then and there. They store the resolutions and drop the actual events. A kid may not remember when he touched a hot ironbox, but he would very well kow ironbox can be hot and could burn his fingers. ---contd. November 17, '08 |
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King-Bulls-Ring said: Good, Ledzep, Thanks first of all, for starting a discussion. By either Reacting (which is involving your mind, thoughts and sometimes physical) or Ignoring, (with your mind and body) you are actually "RESPONDING&quo If you don't react or move away / ignore fully, the event sticks you (in mind and body as well) causing 'pain'. This 'pain' is self-sustaining and self-growing over time. You can only "REFLECT" when you "CONFRONT" On the other hand, "Reflecting&quo ---contd November 17, '08 |
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binduhu said: nice blog..i agree with ledzep today!! November 17, '08 |
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Ledzep said: i have major problems with your 'learn from the past' section: what you postulate as a 'solution' needs no learning at all! this is existence at the fight('react') or flee ('move away') level. coupled with dumping onto others what you dont want to 'own' or take responsibility for! this behaviour also sows 'bad' karmic seeds!!! ...ie it is tying you to the past of a future yet to unfold right this moment, now, ...even as you 'react' or 'move away'. that is not a productive interpretation of living in the present. the more 'meaningful' response would be to respond but not to react and not to turn away. to REFLECT and CONFRONT. internally. THAT is learning from the 'hurt' (allegedly caused by the other) IN THE PRESENT. cheers! November 17, '08 |
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chithrajust said: ---------almost reflects my thoughts and beliefs KB; the best way to implement this is NOT to try too hard; it happens naturally---- tks for sharing--------- November 17, '08 |
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dagnysharma said: Raj... Cheers, Dagny November 15, '08 |
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