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wits-end said: silicon: i wish i could look on the whole deal as stoically; i cannot. death is a big deal for me and all i want is to let me deal with it on my own terms, sans the expections that others would dump. August 23, '09 |
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Silicon_City_Single said: Well expressed views. Could empathize with your feelings ... ritual visits and inane condolences are so dreadful. Inordinate attachment and and perhaps a refusal to accept the inevitability of death ... of total annihilation ... something most people do not seem to want to come to terms with. Hence all the exhibited grief and all the rituals. " It seems to me most strange that men should fear; Seeing that death, a necessary end, Will come when it will come." Moreover, people are so behaviorally conditioned. " We are the hollow men We are the stuffed men Leaning together Headpiece filled with straw. Alas! " Insofar as religion and culture is concerned, in Islam it is frowned upon to grieve as such (not that the precept is put into practice much) The only permissible thing to say by way of condoling is "We all belong to god and unto him do we return". Ahh ... the consolations of religion and belief! August 17, '09 |
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Shomeonly said: Secondly, the stream of people coming to pay a visit, the hermit-like existence for few days, the preparation for the Shraaddha, all these help the mind to adjust to the huge, often sudden, loss. Wits, perhaps Amita needed your hug as much (if not more) you needed to hug her? Don’t you remember how much it helped, both me and my best friend P, when you had sent that piercing poem on his daughter’s sudden death? Doesn't make much sense, the above. One would grieve the way his own heart dictates. To each his own. …. Knowing you so much, I can perfectly comprehend your way…. August 17, '09 |
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Shomeonly said: Rituals, to me, definitely have a place. Firstly, we don’t know what happens after death. So can neither assert nor discard the held-notion that the process helps the departed soul in its journey in the other world. At least the shraaddha mantras are very meaningful, and cleansing. Gives peace. When I perform the annual shraaddha and tarpan ceremonies in remembrance of my departed Father, what it does most to me, besides connecting to him, is that it humbles me before the age-old tradition and wisdom of our great seers who laid down these procedures. Same with all the other systems. ... August 17, '09 |
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wits-end said: easygo: rituals do, but they ought to allow flexibility & shudnt be imposed. rina: good questions, only i dunno all the ans. personally, i can weep alone or with the hubby. with others, its too embarrassing. avi: wish more ppl realised that emotions not displayed, words left unsaid, are no less potent as those expressed, pal. lady: completely agree with u. shome:i hope she did. it takes one boka to know another. tai na. ![]() August 14, '09 |
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Shomeonly said: I'd just have behaved like Anin (haven't I done it many times already?), and at the same time would have missed you every moment, just as surely she she must have done! Boka meye! August 13, '09 |
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ladyinred17 said: Nice read. Death is a finality and different people have different ways of dealing with the same. Cultures handle it differently too. Our indian system...well, it invades a person's privacy and leaves no space...gives no time for the close circle to cry together, talk, accept and slowly move on. instead the relatives plant themselves, the rona dhona...leave the person alone for a while atleast...dont remind..dont ask...dont say...just be around and support emotionally. but this is not the scene, some relatives n friends lack senstivity and foresight. the "bechara/bechar feel ..a MIDDLE path between the west and ours wd be better. tc August 13, '09 |
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whirlwind2000 said: East or west , the ritualistic show of emotions is not needed at all Witty . You dont have to make a show off of your genuine emotions , they will show without making any effort on your part . The rituals everywhere have been started keeping in mind the social and human behaviour and practices prevalent during those times and have no meaning whatsoever now ! What is needed is an honest , genuine , and unadulterated show of emotions , how you do it depends upon your own beliefs and thoughts ! Thoughtprovoking post ! ![]() August 11, '09 |
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Rina2kool said: Grief is best handled alone.....cost u a dear friendship! why the fear in expressing grief openly? Is there fear in expressing joy n zeal openly?If not! why not? Why r we so scared of "vulnerability& Why do we associate expression of grief with weakness? August 11, '09 |
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Easygo7101 said: Great Blog...Yes theres always a dilemma about attending funerals..Death comes silently..and people have their different coping mechanisms as well..Rituals sometimes takes the mind off bereavement August 11, '09 |
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